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There are a fair number of folks in my LJ and DW circles who, like me, are living with chronic pain, and some of us have prescriptions for opioid pain medications of one kind or another. The laws regulating the procedures for prescribing these medications have changed, and the changes will go into effect on October 6th.

I'm posting a heads-up about it because I just got a panicked call from a friend whose doctor cut her off from refills without notice, referring her to pain specialist instead. It's not because she has abused the meds, or because he doesn't believe she needs them. She was hit by a car as a pedestrian; there's no question about her need. He did this because he, a primary care doctor, is feeling too much pressure from those who oversee prescription of these medications. Unfortunately, he (or his staff) failed to give my friend sufficient notice so she's going to be in intolerable pain for at least a week before even being seen by the new specialist.

Point being: If you are taking similar medications and if the doctor prescribing them to you is not a pain specialist, it might be worth checking them to see if this change in the law is going to bring about any changes in your care that you need to know about.

Here's a link to a web page discussing the change in legislation controlling the prescribing of opioid-containing medications:

Old pain medications, new rules

Briefly:

The change takes effect as of October 6th. If you need a refill very soon anyway, you might want to get one before then in order to avoid being inconvenienced (or at least to put off the inconvenience for a few months).

After this date, you will have to get a new paper prescription from your doctor for every 30-day supply. The doctor is not allowed to call it in. It has to be on paper and you have to walk it into the pharmacy. The doctor is allowed to write a maximum of three of these 30-day prescriptions at one time; each one must have a "must not be filled before [date]" restriction, so that you can't fill them all at once, but have to go back to the pharmacy every 30 days for each month's supply.

This also applies to anything containing codeine, including prescription cough syrups, so instead of having those phoned in you'll have to sit there and wait at the pharmacy while it's filled -- even if it means exposing many more people to your virus. (Pardon me; my sarcasm is showing.)

It may be worth noting that Tramadol, a non-opioid alternative to Vicodin, is not subject to these new restrictions. Some people may wish to talk with their doctors about whether it might be suitable for them instead of Vicodin. I'm told it can't be used to get high, and the side effects are supposed to be less onerous, so it might be a good option for some people. I plan to ask my own doctor about it since I hate Vicodin (it makes me sleepy, stupid, nauseated, and constipated) and something with fewer side effects would be most welcome.
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posted by [personal profile] blueraccoon at 01:40am on 27/09/2014
It's worth noting that this only applies to people who have been or are taking narcotics containing hydrocodone (aka Vicodin). If you were or are taking oxycodone, dilaudid, morphine, fentanyl, or anything else, these rules have been in effect for a while already.

My neurologist referred me to a pain specialist not because he felt I was abusing pain meds but because with the harder laws in our state (ask me about WA's idiocy sometime) he didn't feel comfortable writing me a monthly scrip anymore. It took a few years and three doctors but I finally found one I like.

But yeah, every month I have to see my doctor and get the pain scrip and take it to a specific pharmacy (my pain contract specifies I have to use one pharmacy--I get to pick which one, but it must be the same one every time) and wait for it to be filled. And pain contracts are their own brand of fun and include general clauses like submitting to random urinalysis tests, pill counts, absolute refusal to write for lost or missed prescriptions, refusal to modify your meds until your next appointment even if what you have isn't working for you, and so on.

I can't go to the ER anymore with my migraines because they won't help me. I'm on a pain contract, so they refuse to give me pain meds (at least for migraines; when I went there with what I thought was a kidney stone they were quite considerate). I'm fortunate enough that I haven't had a migraine that terrible in some time, but even if I did, I'd be screwed.

I loathe the state of pain management in this country, and in my state in particular. But I cope, because what else can I do?

FWIW Tramadol never worked for me. Then again, Vicodin doesn't work for me. Oxycodone and dilaudid make me stop feeling pain. Vicodin makes me stop caring I'm in pain, but it doesn't stop me hurting. There is another med, Nucynta, that I am not 100% certain is a generic yet but which is like the big brother cousin of Tramadol that worked for me for a while. It eventually gave me weird side effects and I stopped taking it but for a while it was great, and there's less of a high than with oxycodone. But it, like the others, is a schedule II narcotic.
 
posted by [personal profile] pudacat at 02:24am on 27/09/2014
I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV. That said, I work for a dentist who has a sister who's a pain doctor. According to them, Tramadol is basically a placebo, and doesn't work for people with real issues.

That's why it isn't restricted. My boss prescribes it to pill seekers so that they'll go away.
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posted by [personal profile] dodificus at 05:31am on 27/09/2014
I work in a pharmacy (but am not a pharmacist) and I would disagree.
 
posted by [personal profile] pudacat at 08:37pm on 27/09/2014
Ha! Awesome to know that. No wonder drug seekers like dentists.

NOTE: This entry is about pill-seekers, NOT people with serious medical issues.


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posted by [personal profile] dodificus at 10:19pm on 27/09/2014
Bodies are weird, ya know. What does nothing for one person, another person will get knocked out by.
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posted by [personal profile] blueraccoon at 06:09pm on 27/09/2014
I've taken it multiple times, and mostly my experience is that it doesn't work all that well but it does something. Not quite a placebo, but not effective enough I'd opt for it again.

But I have real issues and a high opiate tolerance :P
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posted by [personal profile] smilingslightly at 02:54am on 27/09/2014
Thanks very much for the heads-up. Now I understand why my doctor has gotten suddenly squirrelly about some of my prescriptions, after years without an issue. I suspected it was something like this, but thought maybe it was specifically because I'm now on MediCal.

:(
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posted by [personal profile] dodificus at 05:31am on 27/09/2014
so instead of having those phoned in you'll have to sit there and wait at the pharmacy while it's filled

It always confuses me on tv when someone 'phones in a script' or whatever because what you just described is pretty much the norm in Australia.
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posted by [personal profile] blueraccoon at 06:08pm on 27/09/2014
A lot of doctors' offices now do prescriptions via email or fax. Most of mine (other than my pain meds) have my preferred pharmacy on file, or ask me where I want it filled as I use multiple pharmacies for various reasons. I tell them, they fax or call it in, and by the time I get to the pharmacy it's either ready or almost ready for me. This is also helpful if I need a new prescription for a med I've been taking for a while and I'm out of refills. Every doctor's office I know around here tells you to call the pharmacy rather than call them if you need a refill, and the pharmacy will contact the doctor.

But for obvious reasons, this doesn't work for pain meds. I heard a rumor at my pharmacy that this might be changing, that some nebulous "they" was working on a way to electronically transmit pain med scrips, but I don't know if that's true. And that might be a state thing, not a federal thing.
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posted by [personal profile] dodificus at 10:22pm on 27/09/2014
In Australia every pharmacy 100% needs a hard copy of the original script because we (the pharmacy) sends them into the government to get paid (government pays for anything over a certain $ amount).

I have to admit it would drive me fucking crazy if we had to phone the doctor every time someone needed a refill/new script.

And definitely there are some pretty stringent rules for pain meds here, the scripts have to be hand written by the doctor, it has to be a doctor known to the pharmacy, the script has to be kept by the pharmacist even if there are repeats on it.
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posted by [personal profile] blueraccoon at 02:28pm on 28/09/2014
The pharmacies I use mostly just have an automated fax to the doctor, I think. I know with one chain (Walgreens) if I request a refill and there's no refill on the scrip, it just automatically faxes my doctor for a request for a refill, the pharmacy tech or whoever doesn't have to do anything. But I don't know how it works for smaller pharmacies or different doctor's offices.

Some doctors still give you paper scrips, but a lot of mine have switched to electronic because there's less chance of error and no chance the patient will lose the prescription between the office and the pharmacy. And then there's the mail-order thing--my insurance mandates I get my maintenance meds in 3-month supplies via mail order, so my doctor has to fax those into the company and they mail me the prescription. Fun times!

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